tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24229062.post6765539245959417532..comments2024-02-13T17:22:02.366-07:00Comments on Tikkun Olam: Torah and a Trade: Better for Haredim*Lady-Lighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04992305067771885711noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24229062.post-5587426167659870232010-01-13T12:28:01.837-07:002010-01-13T12:28:01.837-07:00Batya: So you're thinking post WWII affluence ...<b>Batya:</b> So you're thinking post WWII affluence is the source? Perhaps, but it was also a reaction to the Nazis destroying Jewish life and learning in Eastern Europe; it is a 'we will show <i>them</i>' reaction, by encouraging everyone to learn Torah and thus continue the Jewish people.<br /><br />I understand that, but not at the expense of fulfilling the obligations of the ketubah-providing for your wife and family and being a productive member of society. <br /><br />Your point, too, is well taken: we are supposed to work, and rest on Shabbat.<br /><br />In essence, we <i>have</i> shown them (and anyone else who chas v"sh tries to annihilate us) by continuing to study our Holy Texts and creating the State of Israel--that the Jewish People are and will always be eternal.Lady-Lighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04992305067771885711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24229062.post-69291052577564760602010-01-12T20:54:27.267-07:002010-01-12T20:54:27.267-07:00There's no real tradition for it as a professi...There's no real tradition for it as a profession. Just post WWII affluence facilitated it and it became an ideology.<br />It's not Jewish.<br />G-d commanded us to work for six days and then Shabbat.Batyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402874037427009327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24229062.post-71706556693728069622010-01-12T12:59:51.226-07:002010-01-12T12:59:51.226-07:00N: I'm glad you're able to visit again.
&...<b>N:</b> I'm glad you're able to visit again. <br />"<i>A lot of people in the Yeshivish world are incapable of confessing their shortcomings. That's why they point out the shortcomings of others.</i>"<br />You are cutting to the heart with those words. Is there anyone out there listening?<br /><br /><b>Mystery Woman:</b> You're right, it is the 'system,' but don't be so cynical: culture changes, if not by evolution, than by revolution; and people are starting to 'wake up'...Lady-Lighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04992305067771885711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24229062.post-34550878201279916212010-01-12T07:57:07.879-07:002010-01-12T07:57:07.879-07:00It's not even about being an ilui. This is &qu...It's not even about being an ilui. This is "the system". If you don't follow it, you're on a lesser level. I don't see that system changing any time soon.Mystery Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261372717440893787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24229062.post-51630450167498836492010-01-12T04:48:21.393-07:002010-01-12T04:48:21.393-07:00To get a job is to confess you're not an ilui....To get a job is to confess you're not an ilui. A lot of people in the Yeshivish world are incapable of confessing their shortcomings. That's why they point out the shortcomings of others. And I say that as amember of said world.NonymousGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11797875644242667498noreply@blogger.com